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Most people do it in their head, but either works

Alright that's what I'm aiming for. Thanks.

Silence is golden, just as golden as your tupper's smile.

unless your tulpa was vocal and now it isn't

I'm reading up on 'tulpas' and much of it sounds familiar to me, though is it odd that I've never felt them as companions? They're more like a switch in the brain for me, like I mentally become that person and the previous me is temporarily suppressed. Perhaps it's not even a 'tulpa' I'm experiencing?

It could most likely be DID, dissociative identity disorder.

I do have somewhat of a control over it though- and I can even make it completely stop if I feel like I have a valid reason to do so. Especially in the recent months I've completely hindered any other "personalities" to speak for me unless in a controlled environment because otherwise it would give me severe depression. I assume DID is not like this?

It's not

@Deleted User It sounds like switching, less like they're tulpas more like they're simply headmates. There are many types of different headmates, from various origins, and every system experiencing multiplicity a little differently. We honestly don't know if it's DID or what it is, as we're not you, but we'd recommend trying to create controlled environments to try to have your other headmates speak/be you, to possibly communicate with them (as this might help you establish them a bit more, say by using a notebook to communicate), but again this is just a suggestion.

One of the basic requirements for something to be called a tulpa is it being able to talk to you and vice versa at the same time.

1:10 AM

But yeah, sounds like your own unique system of having headmates, if you want to think of them as other entities.

Anywhere I can read like a beginner guild or something ? Appearently I don’t know as much as I thought I did . Appearently tulpas arnt Meta wich doesn’t make sense to me because aren’t they basically thought entities?

aren't you a "thought entity" too?

No I wouldn’t say so

5:40 AM

No one conjured my up one day just by thought

5:41 AM

But is that no what a Tulpa is ?

5:42 AM

Idk if it ain’t I’ve been interacting with my own personal poltergeist for the last 5+ years

5:42 AM

Thinking it’s a Tulpa

I suppose you could call them "thought entities" but that still doesn't mean they're spooky ghosts that can affect the real world

Does a metaphysical entity need to be conjured up?

A non-meta tulpa is someone whose existence can be explained psychologically/neuorlogically. I.e you share a brain with them. A meta tulpa is pretty much any other type of explanation.

Shit, why can't I move stuff with my mind?

Magic ain't real

then explain mlp

Friendship isn't either

XD oh that was hilarious

Friendship is real. Friendship is magic. Therefore magic is real

So explain a Tulpa then ? Is that just adult way of say imaginary friend

A tulpa is a thought process in your mind which, upon consistent reinforcement of its existence ("forcing") combined with you treating it as its own being, it becomes independent/autonomous, functioning as a second person within your head (edited)

11:40 PM

They exist within your brain's neurology, not outside of it. They aren't magic, they're just something strange you can do with your own mind.

Hmmm that sounds like forced schizophrenia

I’m not saying I believe they are “magic “ I just thought they were as you say “meta “

It's not at all schizophrenia

1:51 AM

Tulpas aren't spirits/paranormal either

1:51 AM

Schizophrenia is characterized by uncontrollable hallucinations that negatively impact your life

1:52 AM

That's not what tulpas are

1:52 AM

Most schizophrenics' hallucinations don't even have consistent personalities, they're just random

It is not like that at all; schizophrenia is a dissorder, tulpamancy is not; schizophrenia is genetic, tulpamancy comes from effort; schizophrenia is hallucinations, which can include voices (but not necessarily ones with a set personality), tulpamancy is autonomous personalities and is only tangentially related to hallucinations

If at all

1:55 AM

We've never hallucinated

It is related to hallucinations only in that some people practice 'imposition' which is essentially controlled hallucinations

Yeah ik

1:57 AM

But you could do that without tulpas anyway (if it's actually a real thing, idk)

Of course, I just wanted to specify what I meant when I said it was only tangentially related to hallucinations

Just started introducing our mom and grandma to the concept of systems and how they exist (in their various forms), and started trying to explain tulpamancy to them. Our mom had a question though, regarding "Why would someone decide to create a headmate? Like what positives does that have?" and we couldn't exactly answer that, being that no tulpas actually are in our system. Does anyone have any input?

Companionship?

3:35 AM

I counter her question with "why do you want to be alone in your head?"

3:35 AM

I see nothing pleasant about that...

I did, and she said "wouldn't having more than one person in your head get really confusing, and if you have more than one person - what about the "original person" who created all of the others and how they want to live their life? Having more than one person would lead to having less control, so I don't really see any positives to having more than one person in your head."

3:39 AM

We don't/didn't really know how to respond to that (edited)

It doesn't necessarily lead to them having less control unless that's what they all agree on

Don't need a reason, it's an interesting exploration of the capabilities of the mind

and having less control isn't a negative

3:40 AM

our host loves seeing us happy

3:41 AM

Systems work together and find what's right for them. They support and love each other in ways others can't

Yeah, I agree with you - it's not really a negative, like personally being a part of a system and working with everyone isn't a negative, it's more of a positive as it can contribute towards communication. But that's just our system, and yeah. Just don't really know how to respond to her question, as she still is confused about how instead of creating a system - "can't you just have another person support you, instead of creating another person?" and is looking for answers regarding the positives of such (we provided her resources, but apparently her question still stands - according to her anyways).

Tulpas understand you and your needs better than outside people can

3:44 AM

Outside people aren't entirely reliable/trustworthy, they might end up hurting/abandoning you

3:44 AM

your system isn't going to abandon you

3:44 AM

My host never had anybody to support or care for her until she created tulpas

3:45 AM

Tulpas likely aren't for everybody. But her thinking "Well I wouldn't want multiple people in my head, I wouldn't want to have less control, so why would others" is pretty close-minded

Yeah, it's frustrating - as when we originally brought up the topic it took a long while for her to wrap her head around how being a system could be a positive thing, as she knew "some of the similar concepts from multiple personality disorder" ugh. At least she's progressing to be more open minded, in the sense of at least she's asking questions and trying? Will try to introduce the viewpoint of tulpas understanding you more than others can, to her, and see how she responds. (edited)

3:49 AM

Thank you, anyways.

Indigo/ Lol, we're not a disorder. I think that we've decreased things like depression and suicidal thoughts for my host. We all work together and decide on things, we haven't brought disorder to her life at all

We understand that (regarding the disorder part). And alright, that's good to hear that your host feels better.

3:57 AM

Her response was "I see. I'm not sure about this. I believe real people can help more sweetie" and we responded with "Sure, but for some people having tulpas is a positive thing. I understand that you may not see that for yourself, and it's totally okay if you don't want any - that's your own opinion, and you're valid for thinking that way - but some people do want/need headmates, as tulpmancy exists, and they're also valid for doing so. Personally I feel neutral about this topic." She responded with "ok, I see." and then moved onto another topic, so success?

hah

4:05 AM

you successfuly convinced her to write you off, sounds like

Oh well, it's a start (to trying to get her to be supportive and/or understand - as she has no idea that we're a system, and this is us trying to get her on board - to know that she will be supportive of us and/or systems as a whole -before introducing everyone to her) (edited)

So~ if you don't mind me asking; where do typically draw the line between voices in your head and a tulpa? We've kinda been struggling with that for a while....

consciousness I guess

8:37 AM

control over them

We're at a bit of a weird middle ground

8:39 AM

All 3 of us (host included) are aware that we're part of the same mind

ye

I mean, I'm the one at the computer right now- but I'm asking questions as much for my host as I am for myself

Tulpas are part of the same mind.

We know, but from what I've heard, Tulpas exist as a constant, right?

What do you mean by existing as a constant?

Well, our "main" mind can just kinda turn me and Em on and off at will

8:47 AM

Aren't tulpa's suposed to be independant of that?

well, tulpas exist independently in that they'll still retain their personality, memories, etc later on regardless of that discontinuity, but yeah they can be brought out of focus due to limited mental resources and whatnot (edited)

Hmm... I doubt if a tulpa can grow to always be able to resist switching back to host's identity.

that is something that can be worked on, over time you guys can remain active with less required attention from your host

Cool! Usually the 3 of us just exchange banter and bicker on long walks or when we're alone XD

8:51 AM

Em: I'm also the closest thing our mind has to a psychiatrist

8:51 AM

Em: Just putting that out there...

8:52 AM

H: They so didn't need to hear that.

8:52 AM

EM: Yeah, I know

(I couldn't find any evil smiles, this was the closest I could get) (edited)

But according to my experience they can grow to be able to be the main identity sometimes. And sometimes host can be switched off too.

8:53 AM

Well, you don't have to chat with each other publicly

H: Sorry, I'm kind of new at involving them in this kind of thing

And I doubt if you are competent psychiatrist, Em. It doesn't mean you can't support your systemmates but it doesn't make you a psychiatrist.

Em: Ah-HA, I said the CLOSEST THING to a psychiatrist!

8:57 AM

Em: Trust me, in this mindscape; we work with what we have -_-

8:59 AM

H: He's a wonderful 3rd of human being once you get to know him

Hmm... I doubt if a tulpa can grow to always be able to resist switching back to host's identity. @Deleted User What do you mean by this? My tulpas became able to stay switched after sleeping after roughly 1 to 1.5 months of learning to switch. Also before that (when we first started), they never "slowly became me" as you might expect from the idea of switching, they actually just got tired. The amount of time they could front before becoming tired went up quickly with practice until it became indefinite with the ability to stay switched upon sleeping/waking.

9:54 AM

If you meant something else then definitely say so, but I don't know what else you could be referring to.

I meant something else. If there is more of you, you are not always able to resist switching. Both tulpas and host.

I still don't know what you mean.

9:56 AM

I have four tulpas, three of which are a little over 8 years old and one that's 3.